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PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018 2:39 am 
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Couldn't find a word for puppy in my online Irish-English dictionary.
I know from previous questions that "og-bhean" can mean young lady.
Similarly, can "og-mhadra" mean puppy??

In both cases, is the use of the hypen optional??


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 Post subject: Re: Puppy
PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018 9:15 am 
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= coileán

Both 'pup' and 'puppy' are in the dictionaries on 'teanglann.ie'. My 'foclóir poca' also has 'pup'.

There's a proverb: Mar a bhíos an cú mór bíonn an coileán.

ógbhean, ógfhear - but not ógmhadra (except perhaps humorously?). No hyphen (in these cases).


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 Post subject: Re: Puppy
PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018 7:56 pm 
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Odd. Just looked in teanglann, and pup was there, but puppy wasn't??
Go figure.
Anyway, thanks for the info.
:GRMA:


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 Post subject: Re: Puppy
PostPosted: Fri 09 Feb 2018 12:32 am 
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Hyphens separating the parts of compound words are more common in older writings, and have also survived very strongly in Scottish Gaelic, as with an-diugh (Irish inniu) and an-dè (Irish inné), and (more relevant here) òg-mhadainn ("early morning").

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 Post subject: Re: Puppy
PostPosted: Thu 22 Feb 2018 6:07 am 
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Vitaee wrote:
Odd. Just looked in teanglann, and pup was there, but puppy wasn't??
Go figure.
Anyway, thanks for the info.
:GRMA:


When you think about it, they're the same word. "Puppy" just has that cutesy English "-y" added...it doesn't add any particular meaning.

If you want to do something similar with "coileán," I suppose you could go with "coileáinín," but I'd wait for more input on that.

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