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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012 5:30 pm 
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A chairde,

Could anyone provide a translation of the Motto of the Clan Hannay
PER ARDUA AD ALTA (Through difficulties to higher things),

into Irish
and/or Scots Gaelic?

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012 6:09 pm 
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Maybe Trí chruatan go nithe móra

That's a bit bit literal for my liking, though, the second part specifically. "higher things" is more subtle than "nithe móra".

Trí chruatan a sháraítear I think this would be an acceptable way of expressing "Through difficulties [does one] overcome"

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012 6:39 pm 
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Perhaps simply:

Trí chruatan in airde

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012 6:41 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
Perhaps simply:

Trí chruatan in airde

Does that convey the higher things part, though?


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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012 7:04 pm 
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I think ad alta just means "to high things" or even "to heights".

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012 7:12 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
I think ad alta just means "to high things" or even "to heights".

Wouldn't go be better then? But then of course go hairdí (sp?) doesn't sound great :/


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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012 7:38 pm 
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Why not "trí chruatan suas"?
(Ulster: fríd chruatan suas)

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012 10:06 pm 
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Quote:
Why not "trí chruatan suas"?
(Ulster: fríd chruatan suas)


That approach would be pretty east to put into Scottish Gaelic:

Tro chruadalan suas [using a word for difficulty/adversity which is cognate with the Irish one, and perhaps easier to pronounce]
or
Tro dhuilgheadasan suas [using a more common word for difficulty]

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PostPosted: Wed 30 May 2012 11:41 am 
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Go raibh maith agaibh.

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